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Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards

To: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards
From: Jamie WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 12:15:12 -0500 (EST)
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thats a great idea.....also, been a while since I checked, but......one of the 
last time I looked, there was per band info.....isnt that kinda 
"assisted".......if I see someone nearby is on 10, that tells me 10 is open, 
without me having to look myself....

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <nss@mwt.net>
To: "Jim George" <n3bb@mindspring.com>, "Juan Hidalgo EA8RM" 
<ea8cac@gmail.com>, n2ic@arrl.net
Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 10:48:30 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards

I mentioned to one of the scoreboard ummm  "Managers"? Can we make it 
that while the contest is running, the only people that can see it are 
those pushing their scores to it?

Haven't heard an answer yet if possible.

Joe WB9SBD
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On 11/22/2018 6:04 AM, Jim George wrote:
> Agree with EA8RM, N2IC, and others. Many issues:
>
> 1. Personally, I have no Internet in the radio shack. So it's 
> impossible for me to meet a Real Time Scoreboard or have Internet access.
> 2. I agree with Steve that to have this info while others don't is 
> unfair. Some might not post by strategy, while using the info from 
> others to an advantage.
> 3. The 3830 site has lots and lots of post-contest data.
> 4. Some remote DX locations do not have Internet access ... period.
>
> 5. I suppose "The Internet Changes Everything" capability will at some 
> time, and in some form, demand some "real time" scoring. I agree that 
> it's sort of strange, as K5ZD noted, to sit there alone and work hard 
> for a long period and not have any indication of relative standing, 
> etc. So for those for whom that's imperative, let there be such a 
> category. Call it "Active Scoreboard," or akin to that, and the 
> operator can be either  "Assisted" or "Non-Assisted" based on his/her 
> (morals and) preference. But don't make this mandatory. For me, if 
> Real-Time Scoreboard is absolutely required for participation, the 
> sport will lose me, for better or worse.
>
> Jim N3BB
>
> At 10:56 PM 11/21/2018 +0000, Juan Hidalgo EA8RM wrote:
>> Totally agree with Steve. That’s happened specially during WRTC 
>> qualification contest. It is time to include in the rules “the 
>> station must publish score during the contest� so less hopping 
>> categories after the contest. Today it is no problem to connect 
>> internet from anywhere in the world like 20 years ago, it is time to 
>> do some more changes. Regards. 73 de EA8RM /  EF8R EF8U Manager 
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 20 nov 2018, a las 20:49, Steve London 
>> <n2icarrl@gmail.com> escribió: > > The problem with the online 
>> scoreboard chase is that it not balanced. After encouraging folks to 
>> post their scores, I can choose to not post my score. Thus, I have 
>> real-time knowledge about the competition that they don't have about 
>> me. This is not true in any other sport. > > 73, > Steve, N2IC > >> 
>> On 11/20/2018 11:50 AM, Bill via CQ-Contest wrote: >>   With contest 
>> final results taking so long to come out, contestonlinescore.com >> 
>> and 3830scores.com have become the defacto contest results for me. 
>> The online >> chase is great - many thanks to Victor VA2WA and Randy 
>> K5ZD! >> 73, Bill KO7SS in Arizona >> 
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