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Re: [CQ-Contest] CW with FLDigi?

To: Richard Eversole <rick@eversoles.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW with FLDigi?
From: Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 06:45:32 +1000
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Thanks for that Richard 
We do know CW - Al VK4SN was an ex professional operator; whereas I am a self 
taught ham who has to force himself with a daily dose of Morse Runner. 
We also had Skimmer running as a multiplier searcher - CW GET also has Multi 
decoder capability. 
CW GET Had my vote for operator ease. 

One that is often missed are the decoders in Writelog - they are also pretty 
good. 
Be a bit curious how you sorted out the study without knowing the code. 

In answer to Hank, they are good enough to use in a pileup and work stations.  
In the case of your friend with FL Digi looking for multipliers I would highly 
recommend a Skimmer and an SDR as RX #2 
If he didn't have Skimmer/SDR then FL Digi will do the job. 
Regards 
TrentVK4TS PO Box 275 Mooloolaba 4557 0408497550


> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 07:39:04 -0700
> From: rick@eversoles.com
> To: vk4ts@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CW with FLDigi?
> CC: cq-contest@contesting.com
> 
> OK, I did a study in 2014/2015 of all the software decoders I could get my
> hands on at the time and noted that Skimmer was simply the best for decode.
> It offers multi-channel decode which is important if you even think you
> want to run (would not recommend with any software decoder).
> 
> fldigi, dm780 (part of hamradio deluxe) and cwget were a distant 2nd.
> 
> I have a whole presentation on the study (at home not here at work).
> 
> While Skimmer is good and it might have won in 2009 study over humans, I
> worked FT5ZM without the aid of skimmer which could register no signal.
> Took me a couple to be sure they were working me...  and I still do not
> know the code.... If you hear me on CW, it's with software.
> 
> Only do S&P with software, even skimmer is challenged in a pile-up.
> 
> As for being able to click and log with these, only do that if you are
> physically challenged, much easier to type into the software for CW.
> 
> It would be nice to see the software people get the click to capture
> working with the loggers but so few people actually use the software that
> it is probably not likely to be totally fixed.
> 
> 
> Rick "The Rhino" N6RNO
> @Tehama October 1-2, 2016 (Probably)
> Where will you be?
> 
> http://www.cqp.org
> 
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:31 AM, VK4TS Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Hank,
> >
> > From VK4SN last year's CQWPX CW we compared FL Digi and CW Get interfaced
> > to
> > N1MM Plus.
> >
> > CW Get did the better job but the filters and settings needed tweaking -
> > and
> > as we tried with an unregistered copy the settings are not retained.
> >
> > Both were pretty good - we used them on not so narrow filter 500hz on a
> > FT2000. Copy rate once set was over 95% obviously not as fast as ears but
> > maybe only a character in it.
> >
> > Recently noticed that RCKLog will actually grab callsigns and serial
> > numbers
> > from CW Get - this is also a feature of AA Log.
> >
> > Almost like running CW RTTY. Don't know if N1MM+ has introduced the
> > callsign/serial grab interface as yet.
> >
> > Hope to hear your friend in this years CQ WPX CW
> >
> > Trent VK4TS op at VK4SN CQWPX CW 2016
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > Hank Greeb
> > Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2016 1:01 PM
> > To: CQ-Contest Reflector
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] CW with FLDigi?
> >
> > I'm trying to help a relative newcomer to set up his rig for the MiQP.
> > He's just learning CW, we note that FLdigi can send and decode CW.  I've
> > used FLdigi for Hellschreiber and PSK-31, but never with trying to decode
> > CW
> > under contest conditions.  From what I've encountered in MiQP and similar
> > contests, there's seldom a condition where "good ears"
> > couldn't work with a recevier 2 KHz bandwidth or so, which these software
> > packages generally use with a rig in the SSB mode.
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with using it, or another "digital" software
> > package, in a simple CW contest like MiQP?   It would help his
> > multiplier count if he could make some CW contacts with an aid like FLdigi.
> >
> > Please don't "put this question down" - I'd like to encourage the newbies
> > to
> > contesting to give it their all, and use all the technology available.
> >
> > 72/73 de n8xx Hg
> > QRP >99.44% of the time
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