Apparently ignored by both the ops and the log checker. As we all know, rules
are only as good as their enforcement.
Pete, W1RM
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve
London
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:32 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Field Day SO2R
Sadly, for a number of years, the rule was ignored. How do you think a certain
Southern California Field Day group made 3500+ QSO's in 1A ?
73,
Steve, N2IC
On 06/17/2015 01:46 PM, Peter Chamalian W1RM wrote:
> OK, I'll step in here Bob. The rule was not idiotic at all. In fact it was
> well thought out and carefully done to remove an advantage that a group might
> have over others.
>
> Keep in mind the purpose of FD and if you think it a contest, think again.
> Oh some make it a contest but that's not the basis and purpose of FD.
>
>
> Pete, W1RM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of K5WA
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:13 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: donovanf@starpower.net
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Field Day SO2R
>
> Frank,
>
> It is very interesting that you didn’t have any issues with the meat of my
> statement to Jim which is that the rule is idiotic in that it stifles
> innovation and is badly written. You even give tacit support to my theory
> that this rule was initiated to target a VERY small (about 1) participant
> pool by bringing in your citation to support my argument. The actual year it
> was implemented is irrelevant if my theory is correct for its reason of being
> instituted. I actually went and looked at the 1970 rules and they are
> different (slightly) than the currently published rules in regard to
> simultaneous transmission. There is no simultaneous transmission in SO2R
> (which is what Jim was asking) as you well know so if this rule should
> continue, it needs to be worded better. In the meantime, my advice to Jim (go
> 2A) was sound based on the spirit of the rule even though the rule is flawed.
>
> FD isn’t a contest anyway. ;-)
>
> 73,
>
> Bob
>
> From: donovanf@starpower.net [mailto:donovanf@starpower.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 1:51 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Cc: K5WA
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Field Day SO2R
>
> "A couple of years ago, someone put an idiotic rule into FD which says no
> "octopus" can be used at FD"
>
> A little fact checking is in order...
>
> That rule has been in place for at least forty five years! See the
> rules for the
> 1970 Field Day. The rule was put in place because of the use of octupuses by
> at least one entrant in the 1A category.
>
> http://www.arrl.org/arrl-periodicals-archive-search
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
> _____
>
> From: "K5WA" <K5WA@Comcast.net>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:21:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Field Day SO2R
>
> Jim,
>
> A couple of years ago, someone put an idiotic rule into FD which says no
> "octopus" can be used at FD. This had to be a politically motivated rule
> which kills some aspects of innovation at FD (which is an event FOR
> innovation at multiple levels) and was probably targeted at one cross-town
> rival of the rule writer. So, if you follow that vaguely written, poorly
> worded "rule" for this non-contest, you would have to go 2A to comply. Now,
> if you just happen to have a fast antenna switch that doesn't say "Octopus"
> or "Simulcaster" on the side of it, then SO2R your little self away.
> ;-)
>
> Line 4 in the ARRL FD rules.
>
> The use of switching systems that allow for lockouts in order to use multiple
> transmitters (i.e., an "octopus") in an attempt to enter a
> lower-number-of-transmitters class are prohibited (i.e. using 2 transmitters
> that can transmit simultaneously, with two operators, and a lock-out system
> and entering class 1A). The use of simulcasting devices which allow a single
> operator to key and transmit on more than one transmitter at a time, is
> prohibited.
>
> Have fun at FD. We'll see you as K5TU this year if the Texas floods and 105
> degree heat doesn't get us.
>
> Bob K5WA
>
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:06:36 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Field Day SO2R
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>
> A small group of us have been doing FD QRP 1A Battery for several years, and
> I've recently considered doing it SO2R. The question is, does SO2R put me in
> 1A or 2A if there's only a single operator and software insures that one one
> radio can transmit at the same time?
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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