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Re: [CQ-Contest] Preview of CQWW Rules 2015

To: daleputnam@hotmail.com, k5zd@charter.net, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Preview of CQWW Rules 2015
From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 13:39:24 -0500 (CDT)
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Thanks Dale.
 
One other thing to consider...
 
Who records their contest op... and why?
 
The rules don't (presently) require it.  As i read the rules, the only other 
mention I see is the caution (under IX General Rules for All Applicants, 
section 9) that recordings (to paraphrase) can not be used after the contest 
ends to fix log entries (which is a good thing)
 
I see no requirement, or even suggestion, anywhere in the rules at present, 
that audio recordings should be made.
 
Is it possible that someone might face a DQ for not having an audio recording, 
when no recording is mandated in the rules?
 
Now, I get the intent of the rule.  If someone has these recordings, and 
refuses to turn them over on request (presumably when there are questions about 
certain contacts), that's one thing.  But the wording of the rule as proposed 
can lead to an awkward (to say the least) situation of asking someone for 
something that they don't have and are not required to have, and for that 
someone to face consequences for not having what they're not required to have.
 
My problem is not with the intent.  Just the wording.
 
In short, if the contest committee wants those competing hard to win a category 
to have recordings... then say so.  Otherwise, you leave a hole big enough to 
drive a Mack Truck hauling a Space Shuttle through it.
 
73, ron w3wn


On 05/20/15, Dale Putnam wrote:





My thoughts too, Ron, Randy.
Obviously some stations have the resources to provide... others.. simply 
don't...
are the little shots being excluded from winning?

Have a great day, 


--... ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy





> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 07:14:09 -0500
> From: wn3vaw@verizon.net
> To: k5zd@charter.net; CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Preview of CQWW Rules 2015
> 
> Randy,
> 
> Most of the proposed changes make sense.
> 
> However... let me ask this...
> 
> With regards to "The Observer Program adds the ability for the Committee to 
> request audio recordings of an operation", out of idle curiousity, what 
> happens if a station is asked to provide audio recordings but does not have 
> them? 
> There may be a technical failure that causes the loss of some or all of a 
> recording; it happens, as we all know. Or, we could have a station that 
> simply didn't make a recording, for any of a number of reasons.
> 
> I understand that the intent, clearly, is to let the Committee use the 
> station's audio recording(s) to verify potentially questionable contacts, and 
> I don't have a problem with that. It wouid simply be nice to know how 
> critical this is.
> 
> 73, ron w3wn
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/20/15, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> 
> http://cqww.com/blog/preview-of-2015-cq-ww-rule-changes/
> 
> 
> 
> A number of small edits. See blog post to obtain a preview draft of the
> 2015 rules. Comments needed by May 30.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Randy Thompson, K5ZD
> Director - CQ WW DX Contest 
> 
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