As one who spends a lot of time parsing words in regulations and in
rules, I'm bothered by some of this discussion.
It says that the use of DX cluster, packet, local or remote callsign and
frequency decoding technology technologies (with the examples of CW
skimmer and RBN) are tools that earn one the categorization of
"assisted" but ONLY if the source "provides call sign or multiplier
identification" AND "frequency" information to the operator.
The classic form of RBN does that. As does DX Summit and skimmer.
So what happens if the site provides callsign and multiplier information
but not frequency?
What happens if the site provides frequency but not precise callsign?
What about this?
DX 21.200.4 DLxxxxx 1454z
DX 14.151.1 W3xxx 1455z
or......
DX 21.200.4 xL4AWL 1454z
DX 14.151.1 x3LPL 1455z
The callsign isn't being provided. At least one element is missing in
the term of QSO alerting assistance (as defined by CQWW), which
according to the rules, requires 1) the callsign or multiplier, AND 2)
the frequency.
On 7/25/2013 9:49 AM, Martin , LU5DX wrote:
Bob. There is no need for an exception.
Since the rules mention RBN in this case being used for a very specific
use: QSO Alerting Assistance.
The term RBN so clearly being bound to VIII, restricts its meaning to only
that case of use.
Monitoring our own signal, being decoded by a machine, has nothing to do
with QSO alerting assistance.
Unless rules are very specific, ambiguous interpretation takes place.
In a case like this, somebody needs to decide which way of understanding
the rule is right or wrong, because as you see, you will continue to see it
one way and other people will see it the opposite.
73.
Martin, LU5DX
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Bob Naumann <W5OV@w5ov.com> wrote:
His is my last posting on this subject.
"QSO alerting assistance" is specifically *defined* in the rules for use in
helping to better understand how that term applies to the rules.
This does not mean you can replace that definition with your own
interpretation of the term; the rules define how the term is used in the
context of the rules.
If it were not defined in the rules, then it would be subject to
interpretation. Hence, the reason it is defined in the rules.
One may not agree with how it is defined, but that's a completely different
discussion.
Again, the rule says:
Single Operator: *QSO alerting assistance of any kind* is
prohibited (see VIII.2).
We then look at the definition of "QSO alerting assistance" in VIII.2 and
we
see (among other things):
e.g.; Reverse Beacon Network
So, using this specific example provided *in the rules* of the term causing
the most trouble ("QSO alerting assistance"), we can restate the first rule
as:
Single Operator: "Reverse Beacon Network" of any kind is
prohibited (see VIII.2).
You could similarly insert " DX cluster", "packet", "local or remote call
sign and frequency decoding technology", or even "CW Skimmer" in the rule
in
order to better understand it.
e.g.; Single Operator: "local or remote call sign and frequency
decoding technology" of any kind is prohibited (see VIII.2).
There is no exception listed in the rules allowing ANY use of ANY of these
technologies including RBN by unassisted Single Operators.
Again, feel free to use the RBN, just that when you do, you're assisted by
rule.
73,
Bob W5OV
Single-Op Assisted (most of the time)
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