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Re: [CQ-Contest] How blatant can you get?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How blatant can you get?
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Reply-to: n4zr@contesting.com
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:36:35 -0400
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Surely it takes at least 3 levels -- someone to make the initial report, 
a disinterested local group to investigate, collect evidence and 
substantiate or rebut, and contest sponsors ready to act in 
substantiated cases.  I'm tired of hearing about Henry 8Ks rebadged as 
3Ks and other obvious attempts to cheat, but until people are willing to 
make specific allegations, and stand behind them, we won't get anywhere.

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 10/13/2011 7:22 PM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> Why must the responsibility always be on the Contest Committee many
> thousands of miles away?  Who will be the first local group to stand up to
> the cheaters in their midst both directly, face to face, and by reporting
> them to the contest sponsors?  What are you afraid of?
>
> Randy, K5ZD
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:cq-contest-
>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mats Strandberg
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:42 PM
>> To: e73m@e73m.com
>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] How blatant can you get?
>>
>> This is what I intended to express...
>>
>> The power cheating is the big CHALLENGE of the present and future
>> contesting. WHO will be the first organizer deciding not to be an ostridge
>> concerning Power cheating?
>>
>> 73 de SM6LRR, Mats
>>
>>
>> 2011/10/13<e73m@e73m.com>
>>
>>> Good question,
>>>
>>> How blatant can you get?
>>>
>>> Well, I will try again to bump the debate.
>>>
>>>   It is not fault of sellers but users who buy them and then drive them
>>> "responsibly".
>>> PVRC webinar from last Sunday, see at
>>> http://pvrc.org/webinar/cqww_2011.wmv , addressed issue of power and
>>> all I can get from those in charge of CQWW CC is :"be responsible and
>> fair".
>>> Another interesting thing was coined from K1DG and mentioned at
>>> webinar is SSSS (See Something, Say Something), related to 9/11 events
>>> and translated into contesting.
>>>
>>> Does CC wants us to be alert for big amps and report it to them? If we
>>> need to police contesters with links to sites showing blatantly their
>>> big amps (even stacked one above another with air vents moved on the
>>> side) , then why we need CC?
>>>
>>>
>>> This coming CQ WW phone I will do only 100w and I invite CC to appoint
>>> observer to come and check my power during the contest. Hope some will
>>> follow my footsteps and say the same but I really doubt.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    73 Danny E73M,
>>> http://www.e73m.com
>>>
>>> How blatant can you get?
>>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:53:08 -0700, David Gilbert wrote:
>>>> Check out this advertisement for a Henry 8K-Ultra from W7RF's
>>>> Radiodan website ( http://www.radiodan.com/Henry/hf_price98.htm )
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Beautiful condition and ready for the contest season! You know those
>>>> BIG signals coming from Europe on 160 and 80? Want to know what they
>>>> use?
>>>> Yep, a Henry 8K.
>>>> And that's what you need for yourself to get through the noise.
>>>> Rated 5KW output (conservative)
>>>> Remote control with 20 foot cable
>>>> 240 VAC single phase
>>>> 30 day warranty
>>>> 8 presets
>>>> in service up until recently and ready for contest season!
>>>> Checked and tested by Henry factory less than 1 year ago</quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Dave   AB7E
>>>>
>>>>
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