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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] radio-sport.net web site or copy and paste journalism
From: Jukka Klemola <jpklemola@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 08:14:29 +0300
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Wally,
The Jamies of the world simply operate that way.

They contest about how many people go to read their webpage.
By doing what he is doing, he sure gets readers.

But to the question, are the readers happy .. not all are.

Do the readers get information .. yes they do.

Is all information delivered as the sources suggest?
No.
---> Jamie makes great drama, without thinking who he dramatises.

Why does he not think?
He is not a contester. He does not know the sport.

Once he wrote bad things about me.
I corrected them.
Jamie corrected his article.

But to me, the harm was already done.


Also, Jamie had a friend's call on his website with non-favoring information.
I did actions to find out what actually had happened and Jamie
corrected the webpage.
Also Jamie's source corrected the webpage ..


As a strategy improvement for all Jamies out there:
This is radio sport.
We radiosporters think our sport is fun.
To me, it is impossible to show the Jamie-types' webpages to people
near me, but not actually contesters.

Please understand the reason.

You do not really have positive news.

You just make tabloids of how bad the sport is.

The webpages you show use words like radio sport or contesting.

Think again.


I would like to see some positive news.
Not ones splattering all over the scene, especially the newcomers.

I know it is a tuff change.. to think how on earthe there could be
anything positive about this.


In case you miss the competences of creating something good .. please
take your stuff to splatter some other hobby.


73,
Jukka OH6LI





2011/9/19 wally <wally@el-soft.com>:
> Kelly,
>
> When one is accusing us in front of the world by making insulting comments
> like - "you are well known call around the world and you have cheated", we
> THINK we NEED to defend ourselves !
>
> As I wrote, if it was just about the text published by CQ WW CC it is fully
> OK with us. For everyone who knows who's who in today ham radio contesting it
> is crystal clear that inclusion of LZ9W call in this list of stations was
> done by mistake.
>
> But without checking things in detail, to use CQ WW CC text as an information
> source to make accusations that LZ9W are cheaters is NOT acceptable by any
> journalism standards. If Jamie really has known our call so well as he stated
> in his own comments and if he really knows who are big M/M contest stations
> outside USA then he would never have made the comments like the ones he made.
>
> And trying to present later the situation like I am complaining about the
> writing of CQ WW CC instead of admitting his own mistake has nothing to do
> with a professionalism either.
>
> That is my last writing on this matter.
>
> See you all in next contest :-).
>
> 73, Wally
>
> Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net> wrote:
>> Even if someone has made an error, does that mean we throw civility to the
> w> ind and call him a complete joke?
>>
>> Let those without sin cast the first stone.
>>
>> 73,
>> Kelly
>> ve4xt
>>
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>>
>> On Sep 18, 2011, at 3:40 AM, "wally" <wally@el-soft.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Jamie NS3T has now changed the text of his news message presenting the
>> > situation like I am complaining for something obviously very simple - a
>> > typing mistake !
>> >
>> > What we have been offended by/complained about was not the announcement
> of>  CQ
>> > WW CC, but the comments NS3T has made about LZ9W ( text now removed from
> t> he
>> > site by NS3T ! ) based on the information he obviously has not checked in
>> > detail, before writing / making any comments.
>> >
>> > He should have simply admit that he has not read the results carefully
> and>
>> > has not checked the facts before writing on the subject.
>> >
>> > Otherwise he would very easily have found that LZ9W is placed 3rd place
>> > Europe in Multi-Multi category in top scores tables.
>> >
>> > Good journalism is not just a copy and paste action. Just mu humble
> opinio> n.
>> >
>> > 73, Wally LZ2CJ
>> >
>> >
>> > =========================> ==================
>> >
>> > http://www.radio-sport.net/cqww_10cw.htm
>> >
>> > This guy must be a joke ! :-)
>> >
>> > How LZ9W can be moved from Unassisted to Assisted category when since
> 2002>  we
>> > always participated as MULTI-MULTI in all CQ WW contests ?
>> >
>> > Journalism can not be just copy and paste action !
>> >
>> > 73, Wally LZ2CJ
>> > on behalf of LZ9W Contest Team
>> > www.lz9w.com
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