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Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM

by Trey Garlough, N5KO & Jim Reisert, AD1C

07 February 2000


Contained in this FAQ:

  1. General Information about the FAQ and CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM
  2. Subscribing and Unsubscribing
  3. Operating Practices
  4. Mailing List Archives
  5. E-mail addresses of Contesters
  6. Related Mailing Lists
  7. Internet Resources for Contesters
  8. Finding out more about the Internet

1) General Information about the FAQ, CQ-Contest

1.01) About this FAQ

This FAQ will be posted every so often to the CQ-Contest mailing list.

If there's something you'd like added to this FAQ, please send mail to N5KO (trey@kkn.net), and he will update it.

1.02) About CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM

CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM is an electronic mail reflector dedicated to hams interested in all types of amateur radio contesting. This is a good place for contest-related announcements, discussions and rumors. This forum is more like the NCJ than QST; INFO-HAMS@UCSD.EDU and rec.radio.amateur.misc are good places to look for a more rounded discussion of the hobby.

Although there is overlap between contesters and DXers, CQ-Contest is not a DX-oriented group.  There are other electronic mailing lists (reflectors) dedicated to the discussion of DXing. For details on how to subscribe to this and other mailing lists, consult the section entitled Related Mailing Lists.

CQ-Contest is NOT the place to announce your score after a contest. 3830@contesting.com is an electronic mailing list (reflector) for reporting scores. See the Related Mailing Lists section below for details on how to subscribe.

Each message you send to CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM will be sent out to all the other subscribers, kind of like a 2-meter repeater that has a coverage radius of 12,000 miles or so. Think of sending mail to the list as the equivalent of an ANNOUNCE/FULL message on PacketCluster. Use regular E-mail to send a message to a specific individual.

1.03) Editorial Guidelines

The rules are very simple. Postings to CQ-CONTEST@CONTESTING.COM should be non-commerical and related to radio contesting. Anything outside of those boundries should not be seen here unless specifically approved by N5KO (trey@kkn.net). If Trey thinks the update has merit, he will likely approve it.

1.04) Appropriate topics for discussion

  • Contest Announcements: Must be true contests, not "operating events" or "special events".
  • Contester's shack (inside) hardware/software: Must be relevant to CONTESTING, not just a discussion of bells and whistles that have little or no application to contesting.
  • Contester's outside shack (antennas/towers/coax/relays): Again, must be RELEVANT to contesting.
  • Contester's strategy: Before, during, after. How you planned/executed your activities.
  • Contester's skill: What you do that makes you good (or bad).
  • Contester's stories: Must be directly about contesting.
  • Contest ethics
  • Contest rules
  • Contest operators: who was where, who is good, who is an SK, etc.

1.05) Inappropriate topics for discussion

CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM is mailing list dedidcated to contesters talking about contesting. Termendous lattitude is given to INTERESTING topics ranging far afield, but there are some types of messages that are strictly inappropriate. For instance:

  • Meta-discussion about the CQ-Contest mailing list. These should be conducted in private with N5KO (trey@kkn.net)
  • The summary sheet from your latest contest effort. That should go to 3830@contesting.com.
  • What is the QSL route for xxx?
  • What is the E-mail address for xxx?
  • Is the xxx mailing list up/down?
  • Is the xxx DXpedition on the air yet?
  • Product annoucements.
  • Solicitations for nominations for "Young Ham of the Year".
  • Advertising (unless approved in advance by N5KO trey@kkn.net)

2) Subscribing and unsubscribing

2.01) General information about subscribing and unsubscribing

Subscription management is handled automatically by a program that answers mail sent to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@CONTESTING.COM. This address also answers administrative requests, like stopping mail, or showing a list of subscribers. Subject lines are ignored.

PLEASE do NOT send these requests to the list mailing address!

2.02) Subscribing to the list

To join the group, send a message to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@CONTESTING.COM and write the word SUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.

2.03) Unsubscribing from the list

To leave the group, send a message to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@CONTESTING.COM and write the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.

2.04) Getting the list in Digest form

The CQ-Contest messages are also distributed in digest form. This means that all messages posted to CQ-Contest on a given day will be bundled together and resent as a single message, nominally at 11:45 p.m. EST. This is useful for people with Internet providers that place a limit on the number of messages you can have in your mailbox at once. This is the case for many of the JA subscribers.

To subscribe to the digest, send a message to CQ-Contest-digest-REQUEST@CONTESTING.COM and write the word SUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.

To unsubscribe from the digest, send a message to CQ-Contest-digest-REQUEST@CONTESTING.COM and write the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.

If you are subscribed to the digest, you will still be able to post messages to CQ-Contest. You do not need to be subscribed to CQ-Contest.

2.05) Temporarily stopping and restarting mail

To stop mail (for example if you're going on vacation), send a message to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@CONTESTING.COM that says:


        UNSUBSCRIBE

To start mail again, send a message to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@CONTESTING.COM that says:


        SUBSCRIBE


3) Operating Practices

Electronic mail is different from packet radio, in that many subscribers receive their E-mail through commercial services such as CompuServe and MCImail. In essence, many people are paying for each byte of every message sent to CQ-Contest. In order to minimize spurious messages, please follow the operating hints detailed below:

  • Put your name, callsign and E-mail address on every message you send. We don't all know everyone by just a callsign, nickname or Internet address. Furthermore, not everyone's E-mail software lets you see all the headers of the message, so it's sometimes difficult to reply to an individual posting without knowing the sender's address.
  • Use a subject line that indicates the true subject of your message.
  • Wait a while before answering someone's question. Six other people have probably answered it already. Most answers should go directly to the person who posed the question, rather than to the list.
  • Unlike PacketCluster, many people pay $$$ when they receive messages. Some people pay per message, some per byte. Therefore, please take this into consideration when writing a response. Would you pay $0.50 to read the message that you just wrote?
  • Eschew flamage. If someone sends a flame to the list and you can't bite your tongue, send your flaming reply directly back to the flaming individual, not back to the list. No one wants to pay $1.00 to read these messages (the original flame + your reply). Treat flamers the way you would 2-meter repeater jammers - ignore them.
  • Make sure there is something of value in each message you send to the list. Avoid messages that are a complete reprint of someone else's message, with nothing but "I agree" or "Me too" added to the bottom -- not much value there.
  • Some people pay by the byte, so when following up to someone else's message, be sure to include only the essential pieces or thread of the note. Don't include those 20 extra header lines that your mail gateway tacked onto the original message.
  • If you are going to make a personal reply, make sure to remove CQ-Contest from the header of your outgoing mail message. Otherwise, everyone else on the list is going to see your personal message.

4) Mailing List Archives

Every message to the list is archived. You can view the archives on the WWW at:

http://lists.contesting.com/_cq-contest/

You can also fetch messages from the CQ-Contest archive by sending a message to cq-contest-request@CONTESTING.COM that says:


	GET cq-contest.yymm

where yymm is the year and month of the archive desired. For additional information, you can send a message to cq-contest-request@CONTESTING.COM that says HELP.


5) E-mail addresses of Contesters

5.01) General information about E-mail addresses

There are number of ways to find the E-mail address for a particular contester. Please do NOT send a message to CQ-Contest that says "Does anyone have the E-mail address for ______?"

5.02) W4AN Contesters Email Database

Bill Fisher, W4AN (w4an@contesting.com), maintains a database of contesters on his web page, http://www.contesting.com/. You can  add your own address. Special thanks to George Fremin III, K5TR (ex-WB5VZL) for previously maintaining this list.

5.03) CQ-Contest REVIEW

You can get a list of CQ-Contest subscribers by sending a message to CQ-Contest-REQUEST@CONTESTING.COM that says WHO.

5.04) eHam.net Callbook

The eHam.net Callbook has thousands of hams address and email addresses.

5.05) World Wide Web Directory Services

There are several services on the WWW for looking up E-mail address for a given name. Here are a few of them:

Bigfoot http://bigfoot.com/
WhoWhere? http://www.whowhere.com/

Thanks to Steve Zettel KJ7CH for the information!

5.06) The old-fashioned way!

If you've exhausted every other resource, try calling the person you seek on the telephone and asking for their E-mail address directly. Or send a letter to their Callbook address (and include an SASE if you desire a quick response).


6) Related Mailing Lists

6.01) Contest results group -- 3830@contesting.com

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to post-contest score reports, as is done on 3830 KHz after contests. Summaries of the scores reported to this mailing list are posted on CQ-Contest on a regular basis after contests. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to 3830-request@contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.

6.02) Kids contest group -- kids@contesting.com

This mailing list is used to post the results of the SquINT contests which are announced on CQ-CONTEST. These contests encourage kids to participate in a fun filled event and gain exposure to amateur radio and contesting. Contact n6tr@contesting.com to sign up and receive a copy of the rules.

6.03) CT users group -- ct-user@contesting.com

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the CT Logging Program, by K1EA. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to ct-user-request@contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.

6.04) NA users group -- na-user@contesting.com

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the NA Logging Program, by K8CC. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to na-user-request@contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.

6.05) SD users group -- sd-user@blacksheep.org

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the SD Logging Program, by EI5DI. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to MAJORDOMO@blacksheep.org that says SUBSCRIBE SD-USER.

6.06) TRLOG users group -- trlog@contesting.com

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the TRLOG Logging Program, by N6TR. To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to trlog-request@contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.

6.07) WriteLog users group - writelog@contesting.com

This mailing list is a forum dedicated to the WriteLog Logging Program by W5XD.  To subscribe to this mailing list, send a message to writelog-request@contesting.com that says SUBSCRIBE.


7) Internet Resources for Contesters

7.02) World Wide Web

Contesting On-line http://www.contesting.com/
ARRL Contest Branch http://www.arrl.org/contests/
CQ Contest Magazine http://www.affcom.com/cqcontest/
National Contest Journal (NCJ) http://www.waterw.com/~ncj/
KA9FOX Web Page http://www.QTH.com/ka9fox/
LA9HW Web Page http://www.sn.no/~janalme/hammain.html
OH2KI Web Page http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/salor/
CT by K1EA Software http://www.k1ea.com/

NA by K8CC Software

http://datom.contesting.com

SD by EI5DI http://www.ei5di.com/
TR by N6TR http://www.QTH.com/tr/
WriteLog for Windows http://www.writelog.com

8) Finding out more about the Internet

Pick up a copy of the book The Internet Companion by Tracy LaQuey, Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-62224-6. If your local technical book store doesn't carry it, you can order from Computer Literacy, 2590 North First Street, San Jose, CA 95131. Their phone number is +1 408 435-0744.


This FAQ was written by Trey Garlough, N5KO <trey@kkn.net> and converted to HTML by Jim Reisert, AD1C <jjreisert@alum.mit.edu>. Many thanks to Jim and to everyone else who has contributed to this FAQ.